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Ok, one big thing I see with trem is that there are no basis. The reason I think this is is the current thought process of players:

1. Have more than one evo? y: Goto 3; n: goto 2
2. Dretch
3. Mara/Goon/Rant

Also: if I basi, it';s like I'm just sitting around; I'm helping my team, but I get nothing from it.

I propose that we give evos to basis for healing people. I have two ideas for this, both could upset balence:

1. Give evos based on the amount healed. Maybe .25 evos for healing 100 hp. This way, healing a goon gets me .5 evos, and a rant gets me almost a full evo. There would need to be a count of how much of the damage was human-inflicted though, and discount that (Imaging two basis attacking each other and healing up for evos)

2. This one is a bit hard to explain in description, so I'll use a scenario:

1 Player 1 Is a goon; he goes out, kills some people, and gets 2 evos. (hp 50)

1. He heals up at a booster, and heads out again (hp 200)
2. Player 2 uses his one evo to get basi
3. Player 1 is returning to base, having gotten 3 evos, and sees Player 2's basi (hp 25)
4. He heals up to 200 hp, and heads out again
5. Basi gets

And if Player 1 only healed up to, say, 150, it would be:

Of course, this could create a situation where GT-Lucid has 5 basilisks healing him up while I get none. It's also much more complex.

Hopefully, one of these will create a thought process like

1. Have more than one evo? y: Goto 6; n: goto 2
2. Have one evo? y: Goto 4; n: goto 3
3. Dretch
4. Basi until I have 2 evos
5. Goto 6
6. Mara/Goon/Rant

The basilisks already gain points for healing teammates.

JOURNEYMAN wrote:

The basilisks already gain points for healing teammates.

They do? I've never noticed it.

I knew about score but never noticed evos. If that's indeed true, then it's certainly not enough.

I thought that is over time, that applies as a 'normal' alien:
Grangers are supposed to earn double evos over time, but turns out they earn exactly the same as non-granger with an exception of a few mods which has their reward system the other way around - non-builders get double... :/

Or just buff the basi like crazy and get rid of this weird support role stuff.

The whole point of the basi having healing powers is so that other aliens can heal, and jump back into the fray. This really helps win the game.

For example, I basied an entire game of Karith, hanging just outside the human's upper entrance. I healed up around 5-6 goons, and helped keep them rushing the enemy, instead of having to run back to the base. I think that it also made them attack to lower hp levels, because they knew they could run to the basi and get healed. I know I helped my team tremendously, however I did not get any evos for it at all. That made it frustrating at the end when we were finishing them off, since I had no evos for goon or mara, having spent the trickle I got on adv basi.

So we're just talking a % difference formula, it would take some balance and tweaking for this to work. I would say the time they've spent healing, not jsut around team mates, but actual healing, somewhat like how grangers get evos. Very good idea though.

WhiteTech wrote:

So we're just talking a % difference formula, it would take some balance and tweaking for this to work. I would say the time they've spent healing, not jsut around team mates, but actual healing, somewhat like how grangers get evos. Very good idea though.

Ah, so something like, if I spend 1 minutes healing people, I get 1 evo. I like that idea much more than the ones I posted previously.

Nah basi is ok, i guess people are not much experienced with basis, and they better stay at dretch and keep head-bitting everyone...