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I would like to see better physics used in the game as i would like to see one of these two physics engine used in game

Physics Abstraction Layer - http://www.adrianboeing.com/pal/index.html (has bullet integrated but if you dont use this use bullet)
Bullet Physics Library - http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/ & http://code.google.com/p/bullet/

We already plan on using bullet in the future.

This is a goal but currently we don't have anyone working on it or anyone who plans to work on it in the near future.

have you look at http://www.adrianboeing.com/pal/index.html it alot more advanced than bullet

That's not an engine. It is an abstraction layer.

I've thought about it before, but i think the 'missile' system we use is sufficient for realism bullets. Like
-set missile gravity on
-set self-destruct upon contact with the world on
-bbox size if possible, less than 1 unit wide
-set missile speed to 19200 (₆₀₀ metres per second approx for a small weak machinegun) [used for shotgun fake trail in my visual mod already]
-Damage reliant on bullet speed, but set the initial speed value as a mod of '1.0'

Non-added features [to be coded]
-'Air friction' that deceleration is a "fraction" function rather than a "constant" sum [unlike land]

Other
-Have a simple sprite or small model for the bullet, have a yellow streak for the short trail system

It isn't that hard honestly.

But then comes the mighty evil projectilenudge. Pings higher than 50 probably won't see it appear, or when it appears, it'd be several thousand units away... hence graphics are almost pointless.

ViruS wrote:

But then comes the mighty evil projectilenudge. Pings higher than 50 probably won't see it appear, or when it appears, it'd be several thousand units away... hence graphics are almost pointless.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Care to elaborate?

Directly relating the the part of the quote, cg_projectilenudge only nudges the visuals forward rather than spawning them early. Hence in situations such as me using my pulse rifle, often i see the pulses spawn on walls and stick to it for a few miliseconds the explode rather than seeing it travel through air. I'll fetch a quick video as an example from trem gpp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8YuL6KFjIk
That video was actually meant to feature how dodgy unlagged gets on higher ping servers due to the time differences it takes to receive/send the data.

ViruS wrote:

i have no idea either

well whatever. Give it a try, host it on a server far away from home [preferably overseas], set cg_projectilenudge 1 and have fun. Setting the pulse rifle speed up to test will do as well, but the trails need to be turned off.